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RETIC BLOG

RETICULATED PYTHONS FOR SALE

3/18/2024

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RETICULATED PYTHONS FOR SALE 

WHAT TO LOOK FOR.

WHAT SIZE TO EXPECT.

WHAT THE RETURN ON INVESTMENT WILL BE.

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What to look for when buying a retic.  First look at the prices. Compare prices from different breeders.  If you are noticing a significant increase on price with a certain breeder, then ask yourself why.  

This is where new buyers get fucked.  They are new to the industry and usually get fooled into thinking the biggest name has the best stuff.   A lot of the time the biggest name isnt producing what they are selling or are producing average stuff.   


So if the price is higher and the retic doesn't look any better then the cheaper one, you might want to go with the cheaper one.  There are exceptions to that rule but for the most part when you see a breeder charging 50% more than everyone else, its because that breeder expects people to pay more for a name. 

Thats not a very good investment.  Paying more then you should just means we are going to laugh at you and some breeders will try to exploit you, when they see you over paying.  

Simply put.  Over paying tends to lead to more over paying. 

Personally i dont know how some breeders sleep at night knowing they sold new keepers a pipe dream for $14,000. 

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SOME RED FLAGS TO LOOK FOR 

If a breeder starts telling you the following its a safe bet they are full of shit

Their bloodlines are smaller or bigger than anyone else's.  Simply ask for the data and it will end it real quick. 

Tells you how much money you will make from the snakes they are selling.

Starts telling you stories about how everyone else's shit is fake and garbage.  The only time this isn't a red flag is when its me doing it on facebook fucking with Shane or something like that.  If a breeder cant convince you their animals are top quality without trying to convince you everyone else's are shit, then their animals are probably not all that special.  And are definitely over priced.







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THE TRUTH ABOUT RETIC SIZE 

The dumbest thing to come out of the super dwarf craze is the claims of size expectations. 

FACT NUMBER ONE.  There's really not that much difference in adult size between male and female retics.   If they are fed the same they will get basically the same size with a slight edge to the female to be a little bigger.  The reason female are so much bigger than males is because we feed the females ten times the amount of food.  As soon as a male can breed most breeders slow down considerably on the amount of food they give them.


FACT NUMBER TWO. There is no such thing as a full grown 6ft mainland male.   Its only 6ft because that's all the more it was fed.   Thats why it makes no difference when breeding a mainland male to a super dwarf female or a super dwarf male to a mainland female.  Theres no evidence that retic growth is sex linked to the female.  So don't let any scrumbag used car salesmen tell you otherwise.  

That was made up to keep people from producing a lot of super morph crosses and add value to animals that were produced a certain way.    Its a total scam. 

If a breeder ever tries to tell you that nonsense, you just have to ask them for their data that proves it. 


FACT NUMBER THREE.  Retic potential size is determined by polygenic traits.  We also don't know what epigenetic factors can cause their indeterminant growth to create very large or small retics.  Most likely, its food.  But to what extent we don't know.  So breeders can only give you a rough estimation on adult size.  Its not as simple as genetics or more food means a bigger snake.  Could more food at a young at trigger more growth hormone and that causes some retics to get very larger?  That's a very real possibility

Theres a lot of other stuff that could be talked about but for sake of the buyers expectation, i recommend this.   Don't think your retic is going to only get the size of a bull snake, especially if you feed it.  The greatest influence on size seems to be the averages seen in different localities.  

Retics come in three different sizes 

LARGE 12ft to 20ft plus.  

MEDIUM 8ft to 14ft 

SMALL 6ft to 10ft  Very few super dwarfs will stay under 7ft.  In 20 years iv only seen one stay that small, that was fed properly.

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RETURN ON INVESTMENT 

Heres the part where i explain how rich you're going to get breeding retics.  

Theres basically four types of people that buy retics.  This pretty much go's for the buying reptiles in general.


NUMBER ONE.  The pet owner.   The mass majority of people buying retics just want them as a pet with little to no intention of breeding them.  They simply want a retic for the enjoyment of owning a retic.  

Number two.  New breeders.  New breeders make up the second largest group of buyers.  This is the group of buyers that really keeps the market moving forwards towards making better looking stuff.  If there's nothing new coming out there really isn't any reason for new breeders to invest in retics.  Its the new stuff and the possibilities of  even better stuff to be produced that drives this part of the retic market. 

Number three.  The breeders.   The established breeders do a lot to keep the market going.  We produce the animals for everyone to buy.  We push forward with new ideas and new bloodlines.  Sometimes.  

Number four.   The rich and bored.   This buyer is the rarest and its unlikely that you will ever land one of these.  Unless you happen to be the biggest name at the time or have the newest thing at the time.  The rich and bored buyer is a very wealthy person that decided they want to spend a bunch of money on retics.  They don't really have a plan or understanding of what they are even buying.  For the rich and bored its more about the excitement of the purchase, They are happy to spend more money then they should on projects that couldn't possibly yield a profit.

Years ago they would have been buying from people like Bob or jay and even Kevin.   Today you will see them going with ROR or maybe a and b exotics for some ocelots stuff.   

These are the people that will actually spend $30,000 on a retic that they could produce for $5,000.  If the rumors are true some of these buyers actually spent around $15,000 for pairs of dh albino pieds from ROR.  

Lets breakdown their potential return.  Well they could have bought an albino pied for next to nothing and got a pure super dwarf for under $2,500.  So for $3,000 they could have made an entire clutch.   But opted to spend $15,000, because they can. 

These buyers will never make any money in retics.  The return on investment for the rich and bored buyers is always a loss.  Chances are they will get bored and dump their collection when they find a new hobby to wash money on. 

If you are lucky enough to land one of these buyers enjoy it while it last.  But chances are you wont. Especially if you're focused on producing high quality retics at decent prices.   The rich bored buyer doesn't really understand value or potential.  If they did they wouldn't be doing dumb shit like spending tens of thousands on one or two retics.   

If they were serious about it they would be piecing together a retic collection that has sustainability and high aesthetic value.  Not buying over priced retics that will lose 75% of their value in a year or two.  

Since the pet keep isn't looking to make any money it doesn't matter that they wont.   

The new breeder is where the issue really lies.  Its the new breeder that needs the most foresight, to make money. 

The old breeders are established and don't need to try as hard to sell their animals.  The new breeders on the other hand have to put in a lot more work to move animals. 



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BLUEPRINT FOR NEW BREEDERS 

As long as you follow these steps you should be profitable in you retic production.

Step one.   Don't act like me.   I get away with acting like a jerkoff for the following reasons.
1. I've been around a long time and everyone is used to me acting like a jerkoff.
2. I have a 100% accuracy rate when it comes to calling people out on their bullshit. 
3. I literally know more about retics then all the other breeders.  Ask any of them and they will tell you that.
4. I know more about localities then any other breeder and have established line of kalaotoa, madu, halmahera, mindanao, ternate, and hopefully soon sulawesi.  
5. I'm the best breeder at pattern and color manipulation.  Which most breeders haven't even realized how important that skill is going to be in the future without any new imports coming in.  

As a new breeder there's no way you have my resume.  In the retic world, criticism of breeders shitty behavior is considered ; starting drama ;   
If you dont have the same skill set and want people to actually like you, i highly recommend you don't act like me. 

Step 2.  Understand you customer base.  As a new breeder most of your customers will be other new breeders and people looking for pets.   So you want to produce accordingly.   As a new breeder there wont be a lot of old breeders looking to buy from you.   Same go's with the rich and bored customer.  They will be seeking out the biggest name with the more over priced new thing.   You're not a big name and chances are you wont have the newest overpriced thing.  So dont waste your time producing retics that you want to try to sell for $10,000 each.  

$350 to $1,500 is where you want 75% of your production.   The last 25%  can be in that $1,500 to $5,000 range.

Step 3.  Set up your social media, start a youtube, and get a website.   This website is drag and drop.  Its super easy to use and only cost around $30 a month for everything.  Including being able to sell on the website directly to customers.  Most people only set up a facebook business page.  That page will get taken down sooner or later by facebook and you will lose everything on it.   Guess how i know that.  

Also, buy a camera that also does video.  That way you can make content of your animals for your youtube and other social media.  Cell phone pics and videos are ok but you can make a looking video of your animals with a camera.  


People think phones are taking just as good pics and videos as mirrorless cameras.  They're not at all.  You can put that ternate suntiger video on a 75in flatscreen and it will look amazing.  Not so much with a video from a phone. 

Most people get a business name and go right to getting stickers and tshirts.   I don't recommend you do that.  I recommend you invest in a camera and your social media to get you name out there.  A lot more people are going to see your social media than some asshole wearing one of your tshirts.  

You'll end up spending $2500 on shirts and stickers that have a very limited advertisement range.  When you could spend $5000 and get a camera and lens with some lights, set up a website, and get a decent creators pc or laptop.

If you have any question about camera shit, you can hit me up. Ill help you find some good deals. 

Step 4.  Figure out what you want to work. Figure out how many you can mange and keep properly. Figure out what your want to make a year.  As long as you have realistic expectations you should be successful. 

IF you want to make $50,000 a year.   Thats 50 retics selling at $1000 each.   Thats just over 4 a month you have to sell.    You only have to sell 20 retics at $2500 each to make $50000 a year.   You got to sell 100 at $500 each to make $50000 a year.   That just over 8 a month.  

It doable but a lot of people want to make $250,000 a year selling retics and thats where they run into problems.   Take all those number and times them by five and thats what you have to produce and sell.   

Best morphs that sell and work well with other morphs.   Tiger, anthrax, marble, sunfire, platty, purple, indo caramel, mocha.  Those morphs will always sell.  I recommend you only pick one line of albino to work with and 4 to 6 base morphs.  Preferably ones that go together well.   Get your base morphs together.  You can add more later.  Get your sds and other localities and you are ready to go. 

You have to get some pure sds. and at least one other locality for polygenic traits to make everyone look better. 

I dont recommend jamp or kayuadi for color and pattern manipulation.  They dont have enough of either to add anything.  Other breeders will tell you they do but those breeders are fucktards so dont listen to them.    Any of the other medium size localities will be fine.   It just depends on the looks you're going for.

Im sure theres a bunch of typos and shit.   I dont feel like fixing them.  I hope this is helpful.  Remember the old breeders dont want to change.  They dont want to adapt to the changing market.  New breeders can capitalize on that.  Start making better looking stuff then the old breeders.  Im telling you how to do it for free.   





 

1 Comment
Mike Harris
11/23/2024 08:57:22 am

Hi Rodney,

I talked with you last Sunday on the phone. This article is the best piece of information as someone newly getting into retics with the intention of breeding. I continue to learn more and more from your videos and articles and I wanted to express my appreciation of you sharing your knowledge, it has definitely helped me in my direction.

Thanks,
Mike Harris

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  • Home
  • RETICS FOR SALE
    • 2026 availability
    • APOKALUPTO LINE terantes
    • Supermalukus
    • ternate redemption line
    • mindanaos
    • halmaheras
    • platty sunfire ternates
    • indo caramel suntigers
    • superdwarf anthrax
    • motley tiger 75% ternate
    • philukus
    • DH snow 71.875% sd
    • kalaotoa platty tigers poss het anery
    • marble mindanao kalaotoa jamp
    • philaotoas
    • kalaotoas aberrant line
    • kalaotoa side banding line
    • ternate apokalupto plus line
    • ternate blackout line
    • marble mindanao ternate jamp kalaotoa
  • REPTILES SUPPILES
    • SNAKE BAGS
    • TONGS
    • PAPER
    • GLOVES
    • PAPER TOWELS
    • PROBES
    • WATER BOWLS
    • PEST STRIP
    • ASPEN BEDDING
    • HEMP BEDDING
    • ZIP TIES
    • SCRUBBER CLEANING KIT
    • SPRAY BOTTLES
    • CORK BARK FLATS
    • CORK BARK TUBES
    • PERLITE
    • VERMICULITE
    • EGG TUBS
  • CONSULTING
  • SPONSORS AND AFFILIATES
    • GOT DUCTLESS
    • WORLD WIDE REPTILIA
    • The processing and parcel solution
    • RIVERSIDE
  • PODCAST
  • FREE RETIC INFO
    • SELETIVE BREEDING
    • VIDEOS ON RETICS
    • locality archives >
      • page 1
      • page 2
      • page 3
      • page 4
      • page 5
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      • SUNFIRE
      • ANTHRAX
      • PLATINUM
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